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Build a Curved-Vane Diagonal Holder

The Finished Holder
The Finished Holder. The elliptical face was not painted, leaving it read for the diagonal mirror to be glued on with silicone sealer. A few paper clips hold the vane in a curved position similar to the curve it will have when mounted in the tube.
The Finished Holder

In looking for a simple to build yet very functional diagonal holder, we found Gary Seronik's Curved-Vane Diagonal Holder to be an excellent choice. This design is clever, by orienting the vane 90° from the focuser axis, the usually complicated tip-tilt mechanism is replaced by a simple pivot of the hub on the vane. 

With his permission, we will present construction details here, and elaborate on some details a bit more than his excellent page does. Parts count is minimum: a piece of hardwood for the diagonal holder and hub; a threaded rod, a stainless steel ruler, and some assorted nuts and bolts - it couldn't be simpler. We suggest you read through his page first, then come back here for step by step construction details.

Parts List

Here is what you will need to build this curved-vane diagonal holder:

The Diagonal Holder & Hub

Diagonal Holder Layout
Diagonal Holder & Hub Layout Diagram.
Diagonal Holder & Hub Layout

The diagonal holder and hub is made from a single piece of hardwood that is cut in two after some drilling. We use hardwood (such as oak or maple, not pine or fir) because it will hold up better to drilling without splitting, which is especially important in the hub. The wood can be round or square. It needs to be slightly small in size than your diagonal. We are using a 1.3 inch diagonal, and will use a 1¼ inch hardwood dowel. You will only need about 4 inches, but if you purchase one 3 feet is probably the smallest length you will find. We use less than 4 inches, but start with a piece this long to make holding it while cutting easier.

Scaling: The dimensions we present for a 1¼ inch round dowel should work for a 1.3 inch and 1.5 inch diagonal, the two most common sizes. If you are using a smaller or large diagonal, you will need to use a smaller or larger width of wood. The other dimensions given will not change from our drawing.

Drilling the Central Hole: Using a 7/32 inch drill, carefully drill a hole through the center of the wood, taking particular care to make sure it is straight (a crooked hole here will make optical alignment a bit more challenging). Drill all the way through if you can, or at least 3 inches deep if you can't. If you don't have a center square, you can find the center of the a round piece by cutting out a circle of the same diameter as your work piece; then fold it carefully to make two diameter creases about 90° apart - where the crease cross is the center.

Tapping the holes
You can thread the holes with a tap (right) or the threaded rod (left). The rod will work best with a notch in filed in the end to make a sharp cutting tooth (inset).
Tapping the Holes

Cutting: Make the 45° cut first. This is best accomplished with a miter box, which will hold your hand saw at a 45° angle as you cut. An exact angle is not critical, but you need to be close, you can adjust away some of the error in this design. Then make the straight cut to separate the diagonal holder from hub (we have allowed for a 1/8 inch saw kerf on our diagram, even if your saw is 50% wider, this is fine, these dimensions are not critical either). Clean up the parts with sandpaper.

Tapping: We need to thread both holes to ¼-20, which is why we drilled them undersized at 7/32 inch. If you have a tap that will work very well, if you don't have a ¼-20 tap, they are not that expensive and are a good size to have in your toolbox. If you don't want to invest in a tap, you can thread with the threaded rod we use in the next step - it will work best if you file a little notch in one end to make the end thread a sharp cutting tooth (see photo). You can use a pair of locking pliers to hold either the tap or threaded rod (hold it away from the section we will use, at least 4 inches away from the end you will use, as you are likely to damage the threads where you pinch them.

Completing the Diagonal Holder

Holder with rod
You can see epoxy in the hole that is bonding the threaded rod to the diagonal holder. The rod and hole were smeared with epoxy before screwing them together.
The Diagonal Holder with Rod

This step requires a ¼-20 threaded rod 3 inches long; the can be bought in 12 inch lengths as shown in the photo above. Use a hack saw to cut it to length. If you can't locate a threaded rod, you can use a completely threaded bolt - just cut the head off. And if your hub and diagonal holder are bigger than ours, you might need to use a slightly longer rod. After cutting, clean up the cut threads with a file, and run a nut over them to make sure they are usable.

Now we will permanently attach the threaded rod to the diagonal holder using epoxy adhesive. Mix a small batch of epoxy and spread it on about 1 inch of the threaded rod and into the threaded hole in the diagonal holder. Thread the rod into the diagonal holder at least one inch, but do not let the end protrude out the diagonal side. Set it aside to dry.

Completing the Hub

Preparing to cut the hub
There are two marks on this hub, both aligned with the grain. The larger one we drew first at 1 inch, but that did not allow enough room between the center hole and flat. Reducing the flat width to 7/8 inch, the second mark, is just right, and that is the line we will cut along. The hub is held to a scrap of wood with a screw for cutting.
Preparing to cut the Hub

If you are using a round piece of wood, we need to flatten one side of the hub (the side that will rest against the vane). Using a square, mark the hub for a 7/8 inch flat parallel with the grain. Then, using a screw attach the hub to a scrap of wood to hold it while you cut it. Using the guidelines, carefully cut the flat, and clean it up with sandpaper.

Hub details
In this side and end view, you can see how the #10 bolt protrudes from the hub to attach to the vane. The bolt hole is dilled undersized, then enlarged to allow the head to sit just below the horizontal hole for the threaded rod.
Hub Layout Details
The assembled holder & hub
The assembled diagonal holder and hub. The 3/8 inch long 10-32 bolt is long enough to attach to the vane, without poking up above the diagonal mirror into the optical path.
Holder & Hub Assembly

Obtain a 10-32 or 10-24 3/8 inch long bolt, and matching split lock washer and nut (the finer 32 pitch threads are preferred, but 24 pitch coarse thread will work). This bolt will hold the hub to the vane. We now need to drill out the hub to for this bolt.

Start by placing the hub flat side down. Then, measure and mark the center top. Using a 11/64 inch drill, which is slightly smaller than the #10 bolt diameter of 0.190 inches, drill all the way through. Now we must drill out part of this hole to allow the bolt head to rest under the ¼ inch rod hole. Measure your bolt head - our pan head bolt was 0.36 inches, and the closest larger drill size was 3/8 inches (0.375). If you drill too far you will ruin this part - you need to drill just deep enough so the bolt head clears the rod hole. Take you time and test the fit, deepening the hole slowly. When you think you have it, make sure the rod will screw in and pass over the bolt head without hitting it. Do a test assembly of the hub and diagonal holder - it should look like ours in the photo at right. A flat washer, lock washer and wing nut have been put on the free end of the threaded rod - these will lock the rod in place after alignment.

Making the Vane

Curved Vane Layout Diagram
This Curved Vane Layout Diagram draws the full tube to scale to emphasize that the curved vane is oriented 90° from the focuser axis. You only need to draw the tube center and a wall section that holds the spider to scale to measure your required vane length.
Curved Vane Layout Diagram

Design & Measurement: In order to determine the length of the vane, we draw a full-sized drawing of our tube (see diagram at right). Draw your hub in the center, and the flat on it at the appropriate distance from the center (dimension A in the drawing). Then using a compass, draw the inside diameter of your tube (all you need is the section the vane will attach to, no need to draw the whole tube as we did). When adjusting the diagonal in the tube, it will be handy to know dimension B, tube wall to hub flat. Now, draw in a smooth curve to represent the vane, noting that we want the vane to curve about 90° on each leg (this is not critical, but is the ideal). You might want to sketch in the 90° lines first as we did, then draw the curve to fit them. At each end of the vane, we add a ½ inch "ear" which is bent over so we can bolt the  vane to the tube.

Now lay a piece of string or wire along the main part of the vane (no need to do the ears, you can add them back in later), cut to length, straighten it out, and measure it to get your vane length. Add 1 inch for the ears. While you have your diagram and string handy, measure curved length C - we will need this to drill the attachment holes.

Our measurements worked out like this (all in inches): Tube Inside Diameter: 8; Vane length with ears: 9-5/16; Dimension A: ½; Dimension B: 3½; Dimension C: 2-1/8.

Curved Vane Holder Unpainted
Here is our Curved Vane Diagonal Holder, complete except for painting. You can see the ruler markings on the right ear as well as a mounting hole. The ruler has been scuffed up with sandpaper for better paint adhesion.
Unpainted but otherwise done

Material: The vane will be made out of a thin piece of metal (thin is important both for flexibility and minimizing diffraction). Gary Seronik uses a thin stainless steel ruler in his example, and this is a great idea. You should be able to buy a thin (about 0.020 inches), flexible ruler (usually with a cork backing) at an office supply or art supply store, often with a thin cork backing. Remove any cork and adhesive. We purchased a 12 inch long, 1¼ inch wide, 0.020 inch thick ruler at a major office supply chain for a few dollars. You could also use a thin piece of brass, often available in hobby and some hardware stores.

Fabrication: Layout the cuts, bends (for the ears) and 3 holes - one in the center for the hub, and one on each ear for attachment to the tube (center in the ear area). Center punch the hole locations to prevent the drill bit from 'wandering' when starting to drill. Cut to length and drill the holes. We used a #10 bolt for the hub, and we will also use #10 bolts to attach to the tube, so drill your holes with a 13/64 inch bit. Then carefully bend over the ears being sure to keep the bend perpendicular to the length of the vane. Clamping between blocks of wood or in a small vice can help you do this accurately. Bend them over about 90°. Then you can gently bend a curve into the vane using your hands; you will not make the final curve doing this, just get it started.


We need to paint most of this assembly flat black. Remove the vane, scuff it up with sandpaper, and spray paint it with a metal paint. Screw the holder out of the hub, and paint the holder and ½ inch or so of the threaded rod, but don't paint the face of the holder where the diagonal will attach - we want to bond to wood, not paint, with the adhesive. Paint all of the hub black, and it's OK if you paint the vane attachment bolt. Using pieces of an old wire coat hanger, we made hangers for these pieces to facilitate their painting.


After all the paint is dry, reassemble the parts. You have some shinny nuts and washers, we can touch those up with black paint after final assembly of the tube. See the beginning of the page for a photo of our completed diagonal holder. On the next page, we will describe how to mount the diagonal to the holder.

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